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Male Performer Chat: A Wrod to the Wise on Show Deals
Created by: jaygatsby1925

3/12 @ 12:45pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 54

Models may offer a future show deal in exchange for a large tip to help them win that day's contest. Buyer beware. If you agree to this, take it from someone who has been on this site for a while, and schedule a date and time to redeem the show deal and negotiate the expiration date on the show deal. Once you tip, the model and Flirt get their money, and you are left with a show deal you may not be able to collect on for many reasons, such as the model suddenly stops camming or changes online hours to a time you are not available. Trading a show deal for a credits is a loan, and users have no collateral to ensure the loan is repaid. :thumbsup
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Created by: vscustomerservice

3/12 @ 2:40pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 871

Thank you for sharing your feedback and suggestion regarding scheduling future show deals with models before finalizing a deal to help ensure both parties are satisfied and clear on the details of the deal.

We truly appreciate your invaluable feedback and look forward to continuing to improve these experiences. We have also reached out to you directly to gather some more specific information regarding the experience you received so please keep a look out for an email from us shortly. A.L
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Created by: jaygatsby1925

3/12 @ 7:39pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 54

Thank you for sharing your feedback and suggestion regarding scheduling future show deals with models before finalizing a deal to help ensure both parties are satisfied and clear on the details of the deal.

We truly appreciate your invaluable feedback and look forward to continuing to improve these experiences. We have also reached out to you directly to gather some more specific information regarding the experience you received so please keep a look out for an email from us shortly. A.L


Thank you for the reply and the email. This post wasn’t about a particular model or an attempt to remedy a wrong. After all, my inattention to redeeming show deals can also contribute to expired, unused deals. My intention was to share some friendly advice to fellow users.
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sweet_for_u
Created by: sweet_for_u

3/12 @ 8:15pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 33

Models may offer a future show deal in exchange for a large tip to help them win that day's contest. Buyer beware. If you agree to this, take it from someone who has been on this site for a while, and schedule a date and time to redeem the show deal and negotiate the expiration date on the show deal. Once you tip, the model and Flirt get their money, and you are left with a show deal you may not be able to collect on for many reasons, such as the model suddenly stops camming or changes online hours to a time you are not available. Trading a show deal for a credits is a loan, and users have no collateral to ensure the loan is repaid. :thumbsup


This is very good advice, and a timely reminder to stay vigilant. In the first few months of 2024, I sent a model many tips in exchange for private time with deal codes. While I understand that it can be hard to keep track, her records were different from mine (which I was very diligent about keeping) and I got somewhat less private time than I was owed. Also, she changed her entire approach to camming and became a multi-site model, with the other site taking priority over F4F. During my "free private time" she refused to go on break on her other site, so it wasn't really a private at all.


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Created by: gofish

3/13 @ 5:24pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: IN YOUR DREAMS
Posts: 1,889



This is very good advice, and a timely reminder to stay vigilant. In the first few months of 2024, I sent a model many tips in exchange for private time with deal codes. While I understand that it can be hard to keep track, her records were different from mine (which I was very diligent about keeping) and I got somewhat less private time than I was owed. Also, she changed her entire approach to camming and became a multi-site model, with the other site taking priority over F4F. During my "free private time" she refused to go on break on her other site, so it wasn't really a private at all.




Sweet just a mere suggestion in view of the fact it seems your agreement with her did not meet the intent of the show deal one would suggest you contact the site admin to see if something might be able to be worked out even if it meant a refund of some sort that you could use with another model on the site. One would think it would be seen as a good promotion tool by the site to keep in favour with members.

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Alex2259
Created by: alex2259

3/14 @ 11:54pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: Maybe you will know one day
Posts: 459

I have never relied on a verbal contract on here, and this excellent advice totally confirms my instinct. Great post. ALEX
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Diiegos
Created by: diiegos

3/17 @ 2:30am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 316

Very good advice. In my case, the code deals I've received have been in the form of gratitude for all the support I've given them, but they've never told me that, that I'd help them win a contest by giving a lot of CR in exchange for code deals.

Something that can also happen is that after giving a lot of cr and you are going to use the code deals within the show, they ask you to give cr to do things where it was supposed to be a gift for the support you gave before to win the contest, so it is very true and you have to know who you are going to do it with.
And I'm referring to the 0 CR code offers, because there are code offers of so many minutes for so many free minutes, although in that case, as I said, be careful because if you don't give CR when you're inside, they don't do anything, often just talk or flex
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Alex2259
Created by: alex2259

3/17 @ 3:26pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: Maybe you will know one day
Posts: 459

Very good advice. In my case, the code deals I've received have been in the form of gratitude for all the support I've given them, but they've never told me that, that I'd help them win a contest by giving a lot of CR in exchange for code deals.

Something that can also happen is that after giving a lot of cr and you are going to use the code deals within the show, they ask you to give cr to do things where it was supposed to be a gift for the support you gave before to win the contest, so it is very true and you have to know who you are going to do it with.
And I'm referring to the 0 CR code offers, because there are code offers of so many minutes for so many free minutes, although in that case, as I said, be careful because if you don't give CR when you're inside, they don't do anything, often just talk or flex


@ diiegos : That is also excellent advice. Great post. ALEX

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Created by: jaygatsby1925

3/18 @ 3:11pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 54

Very good advice. In my case, the code deals I've received have been in the form of gratitude for all the support I've given them, but they've never told me that, that I'd help them win a contest by giving a lot of CR in exchange for code deals.

Something that can also happen is that after giving a lot of cr and you are going to use the code deals within the show, they ask you to give cr to do things where it was supposed to be a gift for the support you gave before to win the contest, so it is very true and you have to know who you are going to do it with.
And I'm referring to the 0 CR code offers, because there are code offers of so many minutes for so many free minutes, although in that case, as I said, be careful because if you don't give CR when you're inside, they don't do anything, often just talk or flex


Thanks to everyone who has replied. Diegos, you raise another great point. With a deal code, a model may not have the incentive to put on the same quality show as when he is earning credits per minute.
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Diiegos
Created by: diiegos

3/18 @ 8:46pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 316

That's exactly right. I also think that when a model offers to give something to help them win a competition, you have to analyze it carefully, because the model might not follow through and give you any code deals, or might not do much during the show, or might not do what you expected. As they said, it's better to do this with models we trust
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DaniGa22
Created by: daniga22

3/18 @ 11:17pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 129

Why give anyone credits just to win a contest? Shouldn't they work for the credits and honestly earn the prize?
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Diiegos
Created by: diiegos

3/19 @ 8:53am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 316

Why give anyone credits just to win a contest? Shouldn't they work for the credits and honestly earn the prize?

I agree with you, and a good example of this is the internal battles that a studio whose name you already know has going on, on contest day, how much those models ask for in exchange for code deals, and more

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beachboy31
Created by: beachboy31

4/10 @ 4:04am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 36

Jay always voice od sanity
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