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Created by: ronnie-uk

1/8/15 @ 5:17pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Back to the topic: I don't want to see models being asked to answer the same questions over and over (and over and over) again, especially when those questions are answered in their profiles...which, thanks to the new layout of the chat rooms, is easily viewed just by clicking on a tab. Really, how many times does a model need to say "I'm from X" when it says his location is "X" right there in the profile?

Seems like a fair point, in view of the topic title: "What members don't want to see". However, I'm not sure if performers feel the same way as some members.

There have been so many topics here by performers saying that members visit them and don't talk. If members are asking questions (even if the answers are on the bio page) they are at least talking...

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Created by: zyxwv098

1/8/15 @ 6:35pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Seems like a fair point, in view of the topic title: "What members don't want to see". However, I'm not sure if performers feel the same way as some members.

There have been so many topics here by performers saying that members visit them and don't talk. If members are asking questions (even if the answers are on the bio page) they are at least talking...

I don't mean to disagree with you, ronnie-uk, but a few models I have visited have been answering the same questions just about every 30 seconds when a new visitor arrives and didn't hear or read the latest response to those questions. It does become wearing, not just on members, but the models as well...especially when the profile is right there.

And, point in fact, sometimes the profile offers topics for discussion. For example, one model's profile says he likes films, not movies, and when I asked how he differentiated between the two, it led to a discussion that drew in several other members. If members read the profiles, perhaps they would not be so quiet all the time.

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Created by: louisphillippe

1/8/15 @ 7:03pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Point in fact: not knowing the background of the model, the swastika might be a Buddhist religious symbol...but with the reference to the SS symbol, I doubt it. Still, tattoos are unfortunately more or less permanent, so what one does in one's youth sticks with them...for life. We can only hope that his perspectives have moved away from those represented by those tattoos.

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Thanks for your well educated comment but I might add that
the Swastika differs from the Buddhist symbol,one goes counterclockwise
and the other one the opposite way.One comes from the "Arian" race folk
symbols of struggle war and power and the other one from ancient Buddhist mark
for serenity,knowledge,purity of soul good luck and enlightenment. :evil

We know the difference in ideology in both especially if you add the :evil

"SS" ( Sig runes) also a symbol of the neo-nazi movement presently used by white
supremacists mostly in Europe and USA. :thumbsup

I agree 100% everyone should read the models bio BEFORE interacting so
the eternal annoying questions are avoided...Bios should be completed
by all models to help the situation.
Just my :twocents

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Created by: louisphillippe

1/8/15 @ 7:10pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Well, as long as some models continue to list their location as, "your bedroom", "cockland", "in your dreams" or "n/a", then they will continue to be asked the same question over and over and over ad nauseam.

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Great point!!...I hate to see a models location as Heaven,Paradise
Fantasy-land,yourass, etc...etc... :winkwink

Complete bios save in time and typing!! :orglaugh

and you don't bore
the visitors having to read so much crap... :winkwink

and the model having to
answer them.. :drinkup

In fact viewers should be first be directed to the bio page BEFORE interacting
with the models.. :angel

Just a well intentioned thought and my :twocents

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Created by: ronnie-uk

1/8/15 @ 8:20pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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My previous comment was really about performers whose rooms were quiet. Different if the room is busy, and the chat is in full flow.

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Created by: sir_ken

1/8/15 @ 10:06pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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some members are just so obsess with the models.. you alredy know details about the model and the new ones aren't so of course they asks lol if you're finish your show or whatever with the model then better leave if you're gonna react that way, models gotta meet new people dont be such a selfish potato... :twocents

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Created by: zyxwv098

1/8/15 @ 11:40pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I think we feel much the same, zyxwv :thumbsup

My previous comment was really about performers whose rooms were quiet. Different if the room is busy, and the chat is in full flow.

Ah, I apologize if I misinterpreted your comment, ronnie-uk. Yes, it is different if the room is busy or if it's quiet. And naturally, it's also different if the members asking the questions are familiar with the model or new to his room...except, of course, that if the new visitors bothered to read the profiles, they wouldn't ask the same questions that were just asked 30 seconds prior. After all, the profiles are there for a reason.

Which brings to mind an old thread about how to use the auto-greet. The model who had to answer those questions like every 30 seconds decided to put them in the auto-greet to bypass them entirely in his chat. The only problem now is that he has to see the greeting appear every time someone enters the room, but he's willing to pay that price if it means avoiding those questions.

(Sorry, went :offtopic

there.)

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Created by: sam743

1/11/15 @ 12:30am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I've seen a couple of models who accept a group chat pledge amount lower than what their goal was, then when the show starts, they refuse to do the show until someone tips them the rest of the total

to my understanding, when a model accepts a pledge amount, he is agreeing to do a show regardless that he did not get the amount he was hoping for...

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Created by: jjinuk

1/11/15 @ 2:03am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I've seen a couple of models who accept a group chat pledge amount lower than what their goal was, then when the show starts, they refuse to do the show until someone tips them the rest of the total

to my understanding, when a model accepts a pledge amount, he is agreeing to do a show regardless that he did not get the amount he was hoping for...

Your understanding is correct. I've had this happen twice and needless to say I won't go back to that model and also got my credits refunded. Doing that is a lose - lose situation for a model.

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Created by: phillyccboy44

1/11/15 @ 3:23am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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friend to friend I am going to dirk Thomas room- you want to come

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I hate when models are on the phone n don't pay attention to the people who are in the room

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Created by: Cameron Jakob

1/11/15 @ 2:26pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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I've seen a couple of models who accept a group chat pledge amount lower than what their goal was, then when the show starts, they refuse to do the show until someone tips them the rest of the total

to my understanding, when a model accepts a pledge amount, he is agreeing to do a show regardless that he did not get the amount he was hoping for...

Oh, wow. I'm sorry that has happened to a few of you. If I accept pledges, I will always perform what is in my topic. If I don't want to perform for the current pledge amount, I'll let the timer run out. That's always been my understanding of how we should do it.

I do have a question regarding group chats from a customer perspective. Usually I will only do what what I say in the topic of the group. For example, I won't cum in a group chat unless I say so specifically. (Or if someone tips for me to do it, I suppose). But I have had customers come into a group expecting me to do more than I implicated in the topic. I guess from my mindset, if a customer/customers take me private or multi then they are in control of the situation, and if I start a group then I'm the one mostly in control. Am I going into this wrong? Sorry if this is a bit :offtopic

Thanks for any response

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Created by: sir_ken

1/11/15 @ 8:07pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Oh, wow. I'm sorry that has happened to a few of you. If I accept pledges, I will always perform what is in my topic. If I don't want to perform for the current pledge amount, I'll let the timer run out. That's always been my understanding of how we should do it.

This is how it should be.. :thumbsup

I do have a question regarding group chats from a customer perspective. Usually I will only do what what I say in the topic of the group. For example, I won't cum in a group chat unless I say so specifically. (Or if someone tips for me to do it, I suppose). But I have had customers come into a group expecting me to do more than I implicated in the topic. I guess from my mindset, if a customer/customers take me private or multi then they are in control of the situation, and if I start a group then I'm the one mostly in control. Am I going into this wrong? Sorry if this is a bit :offtopic

Thanks for any response

I myself dont like groupshows were the model only do his own thing and sometimes they ignore what the pledgers say... thats so boring, personality is really a huge deal to me more than the outer appearance so a model whose priority is to please is an A+ for me.... Groupshows for me is like having a taste of pvt with the model so i do give out requests but i make sure not for the whole time just a little coz i am aware im not the only one who is watching the show, what i wanted may not please them but if im getting bored with the show i cant help but give out requests... :orglaugh

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Created by: zyxwv098

1/11/15 @ 10:13pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Thanks for any response

Ultimately YOU are in control at all times. It is in your best interests to follow the member's directions in private or multi-user, but you can choose not to follow them, and SHOULD choose not to follow them if what they are asking for is unreasonable (e.g., cumshow in 2 minutes), dangerous, or illegal.

In group chat, though, you should follow through with the stated goal, unless everyone who pledged agrees to a change. If you accomplish the goal sooner than expected, you can always add something to your show, that's not a problem. But if members request something totally different from what you specifically stated you would do, your best options are to 1) tell them that if there's some time at the end you'll try, 2) suggest a new group chat for the specific request(s) after the current one finishes, 3) after the current group is half over (that is, when no one else can join), ask the group if they ALL agree to changing the goal (wait until no one else can join so that someone who pledges expecting one thing doesn't get angry that they got something else), or 4) suggest that they take you into private after the group ends.

Most members will be understanding if you choose not to change the goal of the group, but some may get angry that you refused. On the other hand, some may get angry if you DO change the goal. After all, if you joined a group chat expecting 10 minutes of ass-play and instead got 10 minutes of jerking to climax, you might enjoy it, but if you really had your heart set on ass-play, you'd be a little miffed.

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Created by: stinks

1/13/15 @ 1:53pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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members telling models that if you show me dick or ass I will go private and than do not go private

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Created by: Sencer

1/13/15 @ 8:08pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Sencer i think i would go full bi for you

. I liked this post.

haha,by the way you look my friend we can arrange something ^^ .btw happy new year for each and every one of you and BU HA HA HA ! I`M BACK!

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Created by: Cameron Jakob

1/14/15 @ 12:37am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Thanks for answering! That definitely makes sense. I like the group shows to be interactive and members see what they like. I think requests are good for sure in that regard. When the requests are for an entirely different kind of show than what the topic was is where I think it gets a little confusing. But your viewpoint is helpful to make sure I am consistently interacting with the group as we accomplish the goal of the topic.

In group chat, though, you should follow through with the stated goal, unless everyone who pledged agrees to a change. If you accomplish the goal sooner than expected, you can always add something to your show, that's not a problem. But if members request something totally different from what you specifically stated you would do, your best options are to 1) tell them that if there's some time at the end you'll try, 2) suggest a new group chat for the specific request(s) after the current one finishes, 3) after the current group is half over (that is, when no one else can join), ask the group if they ALL agree to changing the goal (wait until no one else can join so that someone who pledges expecting one thing doesn't get angry that they got something else), or 4) suggest that they take you into private after the group ends.

Thank you for the suggestions. They will definitely help frame what to do when members are enter a group show and start angling for a different kind of show than the topic implies. More often than not when I run into this situation it is members asking for cum in a short or low credit show. I do try to encourage them to go private afterwards if they want to cum with me. I just feel bad if it ruins the mood for them or something. The advice and perspective you shared were very helpful!

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Created by: mrmos

1/14/15 @ 4:39am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Don't know about male models, but these traits are very common among female models.

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Created by: sam743

1/14/15 @ 11:30am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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when members beg the model to start a group show and then don't join. or they beg for a party and then don't tip...kind of annoying

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Created by: sam743

1/14/15 @ 11:41am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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members telling models that if you show me dick or ass I will go private and than do not go private

have you seen the guy (his first name is Robert, forget his last name, starts with a k) who goes to new models rooms, tells them to lay flat like they are dead for 5 minutes, and if they do, he promises to take them private and tip them tens of thousands of credits...which of course he doesn't. that guy ticks me off. I warn the model if I see him, but thought i'd bring it up here

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Created by: sir_ken

1/14/15 @ 1:05pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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